uh just throwing multiple bodies at him and you know trying to make it tough on them you know trying to wear them out throughout the game and um you know that’s hard to do I mean we seen his last game versus Sacramento on the second night of a back toback you know at his age is just simply unheard of so you know guys like that you just want to try to wear them down the most you can and switching bodies between Roy Brad and Ryan you know they all did excellent job on them it’s been close game to you guys all year