for me growing up in New Zealand um you our people are always um you know lower on the list in terms of the conversation or being included in things and I remember working in a um convenience store and I was always out the back of the convenience store they never and there were people who got to come in and I’ve been working there for six months and they got went straight to work on the till and I was like how come the what you call that a cash register and um and I was like how come I want to do that part of the job and I was always watching vegetables out the back and I was always like that’s annoying to me and so um you know and the fact that happens the world over um uh that was one of the big draws to me was to be able to be involved in something that highlights uh those issues wow you were the background guy I was a background guy right in the beginning and I showed them